Comparing natural Immunity to vaccine-induced immunity

Dr. Julie Ponesse speaks with Dr. Steven Pelech about the differences between natural immunity and the immunity acquired through the COVID-19 vaccines.


I spoke with Dr. Steven Pelech, who is a professor in the Department of Medicine at the University of British Columbia and principal founder of Kinexus Bioinformatics Corporation, as well as Kinetek Pharmaceuticals about natural immunity, antibodies and COVID-19 vaccination.

At Kinexus, Dr. Pelech has been studying antibodies and tracks the proteins found in cancer, diabetes and other diseases. In early 2020, he was able to study the complete genome sequence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and determined the proteins that make up COVID-19. Since then, he has been running a clinical study with 3,500 people and has found that up to 90 percent of the participants have antibodies against the virus, this includes both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. He has also found that many of the people who have recovered from COVID-19 still carry antibodies to the virus two years after recovery.

Dr. Pelech suggests that it is the acquisition of natural immunity in the community that has been protecting the population, not necessarily the vaccine itself, which may actually be causing harm and reducing the effectiveness of our natural immunity. Dr. Pelech discusses the data coming out of Alberta that demonstrate people are most susceptible to getting COVID-19 in the first nine days following vaccination.

We discuss how protection from the vaccine wanes after five to six months and how each subsequent booster reflects a shorter period of vaccine efficacy as demonstrated in countries that are ahead of Canada like Israel. We also look at how the unvaccinated have a broader immune response to COVID-19 than those people who have been double vaccinated and boosted, and how people who had the original SARS-CoV-1 virus from 17 years ago, still carry antibodies.

We discuss the response to SARS-CoV-1 and how natural immunity is the most reasonable explanation for how it eventually disappeared. We look at countries like India and how the waves of COVID-19 hit the population both before and after mass vaccination. We also touch on the members of the population that are most vulnerable to COVID-19 and how we would likely have turned out similar to countries like Sweden had we not interfered by implementing a mass vaccination program.

As more data and information become available, Dr. Pelech says its clear that restrictive measures like masking and quarantining did not reduce transmission, that statistically people are less likely to die from COVID-19 if theyre unvaccinated, and that vaccination, with subsequent boosters, actually can increase risk of death from COVID-19.

We touch on all-cause mortality, what it means and how it is increasing, and its underestimation in reporting systems. We also discuss what Dr. Pelech believes will be higher rates of autoimmune disease resulting from the vaccines in the years to come.

Finally, Dr. Pelech touches on a conference he recently attended called “Reclaiming Canada” where lawyers, doctors, scientists and politicians gathered to discuss the deficiencies that have come to light in our government, health care, media and court systems, as well as a strategy to help repair Canada to get us back to where we were before COVID-19 hit.

Read more about Dr. Pelechs work in the following study:

Which is better for future COVID-19 prevention: Immunity following natural infection or vaccine-induced immunity.

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Dr. Julie Ponesse

Dr. Julie Ponesse


Dr. Julie Ponesse is the Ethics Scholar for The Democracy Fund and author of the new book: My Choice: The Ethical Case Against Covid19 Vaccine Mandates. Dr. Ponesse's focus is on educating Canadians about civil liberties.

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