How the billionaire class is seeking to control a universe that is uncontrollable

Dr. Julie Ponesse and CEO Michael Driver discuss the not so conspiratorial aspirations of the billionaire class, being optimistic during a pandemic, conformity, the natural laws of the universe and the inability to truly control it.


I spoke with Michael Driver, CEO of Convex Capital, an investment bank in the UK about what has been happening over the last two years, the effects it has had on our capacity to be free and why we have reason to be optimistic.

Michael has been writing about the pandemic, the COVID narrative, civil liberties, the implications of the lockdowns, as well as the influence of powerful global elites over the past two years. You can find his articles at TCW: Defending Freedom.

During our conversation, we discuss how the billionaire class, which includes people like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, has made public declarations of their non-democratic influence and agenda over global policy, our governments and organizations including the World Health Organization. We comment on how the global elites’ agenda can no longer be labelled as conspiratorial as the information is readily available.

Michael brings up complexity theory and the idea that the future is by nature unpredictable and will surprise you despite the amount of information you may have, which goes against the billionaires’ idea that they can control the world through mediums like artificial intelligence. We also discuss how some individuals have hubristic attitudes making them think they know and can control the future.

We touch on how historically when certain empires have tried to beat nature, they have failed miserably. Michael references the Yiddish proverb, Man plans and God laughs. We also discuss how people are conforming automatically without even knowing they are, and how to a certain extent, that is not a bad thing.

Michael suggests our screen-based culture has cut us off from our natural instincts and has interfered with our intuition and our interior life. He describes how the working class is driven by daily survival, which puts them more in touch with their instincts than the middle class, who have surrendered responsibility to the billionaire class. Instead of looking from the inside out, they’re looking outward to be told how to live and think.

We discuss how the desire to know everything, which is what the World Economic Form members (WEF) aspire to do, is leading down a dangerous path and interferes with the natural flow of the universe.

We look at the reaction of people in Tanzania to the pandemic restrictions and how they collectively refused to follow any of the orders. We discuss characteristics of people who hold a certain level of skepticism and how they are purposefully marginalized. We briefly touch on the idea of acquired psychopathy that Michael describes happens when you become too wealthy.

We examine the current divide between an analog and digital world and how those of the WEF class seek to create a closed programmable, predictable system and how making the world more digital and automated has not necessarily increased our level of happiness or made our lives any easier. In many cases, it has made things harder as we work more and never get a chance to fully disconnect.

Michael comments that in being human there is no alternative state to exist in than optimism and that the higher power of the universe is not something that can ever be predicted or contained.

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Julie Ponesse

Julie Ponesse


Dr. Julie Ponesse was the Ethics Scholar for The Democracy Fund where she authored the book: My Choice: The Ethical Case Against Covid19 Vaccine Mandates. Dr. Ponesse's focus was on educating Canadians about civil liberties.

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